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  •  11-22-2007, 9:31 PM 18478

    "Marl" The Stock Trading Robot

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    Hi Everyone,

    I'm new to Zecco, just joined.

    Anyone had experience with "Marl" the stock trading robot? I'm excited about the potential but would value feedback from any members who have used the service.

    They are claiming that 13 millionaires have been created so far using "Marl."

    I'm also an affiliate for "Marl" if anyone wants to check it out for themselves. 

    Have a great day (or evening)!

    David

    Firedream

    Australia

  •  11-22-2007, 10:17 PM 18483 in reply to 18478

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    ok, reality check... why are they selling it to the little guys? (cos all the big wall street firms already have it?) LOL

    "Earl" my stock picking monkey will do a better job, at least for me. If anybody is interested, subscribe to "earl's newsletter", for 28.88 you will get a nice dose of fresh pump and dump penny stocks every day. ;) ;)

    My advice is: when it looks too good to be true it is...

    wish you luck

     

  •  11-23-2007, 5:18 AM 18494 in reply to 18478

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    I have been following MARL's recommendations for a few weeks so far and will continue for a few more weeks before I invest any money.  So far am not convinced but it's early days.

    I run MARL almost every day and write down it's recommendations. Then I write down the stock prices each day.  Doublingstocks e-mail recommendations seem to perform well.  MARL's recommendations are not very impressive so far.  I think you need to just treat it as a recommendation and do your own research and make your own decisions before you buy.

    I joined Zecco on their recommendation.  That was good advise it seems.

  •  11-23-2007, 8:28 AM 18495 in reply to 18483

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    nycjan4405:

    "Earl" my stock picking monkey will do a better job, at least for me. If anybody is interested, subscribe to "earl's newsletter", for 28.88 you will get a nice dose of fresh pump and dump penny stocks every day. ;) ;)



    Oh wow, do I get some free poop with every order? :D

    Seriously, any method that creates millionaires will cease to do so once it becomes public and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. In the short term, stocks are a zero sum game: for some people to win, others have to lose.
  •  11-23-2007, 8:40 AM 18496 in reply to 18494

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    How can I get access to Marl?
  •  11-23-2007, 12:25 PM 18505 in reply to 18496

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    You can click on the add for Marl that is all over Zecco's site.  Without signing up I had them send me two of there picks because I was not convinced at all that Marl worked as they stated.   I would have thought that would have sent me two good picks to convince me to pay for the subscrption.  I don't remember off the top of my head what both of them were but one was TRGD (Tara Gold).  They told me to buy this stock in the up $0.60 range, close to t $0.70. Right now, the current price is $0.54.  The other stock I follwed for a couple weeks and also took a big loss.  It may end up doudling in price at some point, but doubling from $0.30 doesn't exactly make you a profit if you bought close to $0.70.   But they may make some good picks from time to time.
  •  11-26-2007, 12:15 AM 18577 in reply to 18478

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    The only computer trading robot I would trust is one that I programmed myself.  Or atleast, could play with the insides!

    Besides, if a computer is smarter than a human, and supposedly a chimp is a better stock picker, why are you still investing??

    Anyways, use your brain.  You know when stocks go up and down just like everyone else.  Except, you gotta take the opposing wave. 

    Check out my website @ www.advancedtrendanalysis.com so you know where the wave is headed!

    Good Luck,
    Scott
  •  11-26-2007, 3:22 AM 18580 in reply to 18495

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    DracMonster:
    stocks are a zero sum game: for some people to win, others have to lose.

    With all due respect to your opinion, please refrain from making unfounded statements like that. Do you have a background in mathematics? If the market was a zero-sum game, half of all investors would be in the red, so the other half would be in the black. In stocks, return on investment is the name of the game. That is, the earnings per share represented a profit on capital invested. A service was provided by the company and a profit was made. Nobody really lost anything. Rather, value was generated. It's just good ol' capitalism in action.

  •  11-26-2007, 4:20 AM 18581 in reply to 18478

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        hey dude don't tell everybody.
    the whole point is that linited no of people can use the system. else it will become too volitile as shares move on demand and supply bassis -get it.

    i am also startin but just weary of too many poeple joining.

    trail and error is the best way to test it. start small.

    mark
  •  11-26-2007, 5:59 AM 18585 in reply to 18494

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        did you actually spend $38000 to buy marl and then now u r not satisfied.. OMG  maybe its a circus tiger that needs a pro to handle it .. dunno


  •  11-26-2007, 8:39 AM 18589 in reply to 18585

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    Nah, they have a "trial" offer for 100$.

    I also picked it up to see if it works, but it's too early to tell.

    I do not consider anything unreasonable. Until I see with my own eyes it's vaporware, I will evaluate it. I have no opinion.

    As for the zero-sum thing, that's a common maxim. Stock trading is a zero sum game. For everyone making money, someone is losing money on the deal.

    The trick is to be the guy (Soros?) making money shorting on the Enron deal, not the trillions of morons buying it all the way down.
  •  11-26-2007, 2:03 PM 18605 in reply to 18478

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    OK, first off, let's take it from an objective perspective. I used to work for one of the largest stock brokerage firms in NYC (in the World Trade Center), and have been a day trader for a number of years, and believe it or not have been involved with the gaming industry (casino's) for the last 20.

    A Fool And His Money Are Soon Parted.

    That being said, I am experimenting with MARL...key word right now being experimenting without money invested other than in the newsletter and software.

    Let's take this a step at a time.

    If you think that MARL is going to give you a "day trade" where you can be in and out of the market in a few hours, I would ask that you question this. Real day trading is a very difficult and risky way to play the market. It takes a special kind of personality, a good bankroll, excellent software (usually not available to the individual except at great cost), money management, and even then most people lose their shirts.

    In actual trading, the longer you are in a stock, meaning

    1) being involved for the long haul, which can be for 30 years and require your funds to be locked up for extended periods of time, or

    2) simply buying a stock when it goes over its 200 day moving average and selling when it goes below it (which makes decent gains with this approach and keeps you out of down markets)

    are probably the safest and most conservative ways to invest.

    BUT they ARE boring.

    Retirement funds are not for penny stocks. Putting retirement funds in a good mutual fund is probably your best bet. Playing with penny stocks is for a small amount of funds that you can AFFORD to lose. It is not for the majority of your bankroll. Consider it a night in Las Vegas and you'll catch my drift.

    When it comes to investing for retirement, I would strongly suggest putting your money in mutual funds with about 10%-20% of your portfolio in gold and silver as a hedge against inflation and calamity. I would also strongly suggest looking at fabian.com and signing up for their newsletter. It has been around for a VERY long time and has excellent results. Just don't get involved with their sector buying letter which costs like $1500. Stick with the basic newsletter. It is time tested. The website also has a calculator that will prove to you that if you are 25 years old and invested just $100 a month for the next 40 years, you would easily retire with over a million dollars plus by age 65.

    NOW, let's continue.

    The ad for MARL is meant to entice you to buy the newsletter for $47 (a ONE TIME fee and very reasonable at that) and after enrollment, you have the option to be a "tester" of the software for $97 more (which means reporting back to the company your results on a regular basis your results/purchases etc.) Both of these ads make it sound like you have a short period of time to take advantage of the opportunity, or else you might miss out and never get a second chance, or God forbid have to be put on a waiting list.

    This may actually be true, but it is also a basic marketing ploy called using scarcity. It drives sales just like saying if you "buy now, you also get this other item for FREE." However, I was intrigued by the fact that the newsletter was only $47 and you NEVER had to pay for it ever again. That is pretty much unheard of in the newsletter industry so my interest (no pun intended) was piqued!

    I did some research on the web before buying, and there are mixed reviews but "mostly" positive. "Most" will tell you that if you get the newsletter and use it ONLY, there will be ("obviously" winners and losers,) but that the winners far outweigh the losers and you will profit. That is TRUE and NECESSARY about trading in general, whether it be stocks, bonds, mutual funds, futures, options, penny's..... whatever. You have to have your winners make more than your losses, otherwise what are you doing this for, right?.

    Now as for the ad on the web, I think they are basically telling the truth about the background of the developers, and the product. Today, I looked at the recommended stock by MARL and its chart, and to be honest, it looked from a "technical" point of view to be a decent purchase....everything was pretty much lined up. (I have only had the software for one day, so I can't give you more info than this one stock.)

    BUT stocks do not just move on technicals. They move on fundamentals as well. Where the newsletter DOES give an advantage is that not only does MARL give a technical analysis of the stock using well known indicators, but the writers of the newsletter then back it up by doing research into the company ITSELF (called fundamental analysis). They talk to the CEO, go to the business and check out the headquarters, look at profit and loss statements, examine the product and past, current and future sales, and do what we should ALL do with MARL, once the software gives us a recommendation,.....that is we should find out everything about the company before we put our money into it. After all, we aren't just buying stock, we are becoming part owners (even if just for a short time) in that company, and if a stranger came up to you and said "put money into my company" and you didn't find out everything about it first, then in casino layman terms you are a SUCKER.

    That is the main reason why the newsletters "picks" do so much better than just owning the software and buying willy nilly whatever MARL says.

    There is no silver bullet or perfect system,..... not in the market OR gambling.

    Buying the software does give some advantages. Included are 2 excellent .pdf files which outline

    1) how MARL works and

    2) gives a fairly comprehensive look (although for beginners) at how the markets work, how to buy stock, the different types of orders and recommended brokerages, etc.. Even as a seasoned trader, there were a couple of new things I learned.

    Being part of the newsletter ALSO gives you access to real people who can answer questions as well. This is a VERY valuable service because getting information out of a broker unless he is full service (and which you pay much higher commissions for) is very important. Many online brokers have crappy (and that a technical term) customer service. And most of those CS people don't have a clue about the market. So having good people through this newsletter is very nice indeed.

    So why is the software and newsletter so cheap? My guess is that these guys are building up to something a lot bigger (which is basically what the web ad states.) The unit that costs $28K is probably a lot more sophisticated than what you (and I) are buying, because what we ARE buying for $97 is a piece of software that ACCESSES the MAIN database where the $28K version of the computer is doing ALL the work. The owners say that word of mouth will help them promote the bigger computer setup. That is probably true considering the amount of buzz the baby MARL and the newsletter are generating.

    So what is the bottom line here?

    Investigate everything that the newsletter and baby MARL gives you. Check out the stock, see if the recommendations rise in value more than the losses accumulate and test the newsletter for a few weeks, even a few months before actually sinking any cash into a stock. Most of these reco's are for holding the stock for a few days, weeks, or even months which is also fully outlined in the reading material. The newsletter will give you SELL signals as well. Baby MARL will not, so you'll have to come up with your own exit strategy. (200 day moving average?)

    There is an 8 week period where you can try the newsletter at no risk. That should give you some insight and a chance to test it briefly.

    I am not an affiliate of MARL or the company and am not trying to sell you anything. I am simply giving you my unbiased objective point of view. I hope this helps to give some perspective. 
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