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  •  10-25-2006, 12:04 AM 1533

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    This is a thread for young investors in the Zecco Community. How about, the under 25 crowd? Share your experiences, ask questions, drop stock tips and form a community within a community to help each other retire before our friends!

    http://www.20sinvestor.blogspot.com
    http://www.linkedin.com/in/rossgreenspan
  •  10-25-2006, 12:26 AM 1534 in reply to 1533

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    New investor as well.  Will be funding Zecco account in a few weeks.  Would you share a few sites where you do your research on a potential stock? 

  •  10-25-2006, 1:40 AM 1536 in reply to 1534

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    Yeah, I'm with Scottrade right now and just waiting for all my funds to transfer over.  I have been telling all my friends who invest to get with Zecco...this is ingenius -- Free Trades!!  Can't wait...
  •  10-25-2006, 1:45 AM 1537 in reply to 1534

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    Hi there,

    you can check out my site, www.itradestation.com. Just google my username. I do occassionally post them here. Thanks. Also, it should help some of the new investors to understand what technical anaylsis is. Thanks.


    Please visit itradestation.com for the latest update.
  •  10-25-2006, 9:23 AM 1544 in reply to 1534

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    I research stocks at Google Finance, Yahoo Finance, MSN Money, TheStreet.com, SeekingAlpha, and most importantly EDGAR (sec.gov).

    http://www.20sinvestor.blogspot.com
    http://www.linkedin.com/in/rossgreenspan
  •  10-25-2006, 2:14 PM 1554 in reply to 1534

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    Hi There,

    One of our goals, together with providing market analysis and stock picks, is to educate novice and intermediate traders about the art of technical analysis. Technical Analysis is the superior form of analysis across EVERY timeframe (although it is often mistaken for being an art that is only applicable to the short term)..

    Come take a look at our Free Newsletter at www.themarketmessenger.com and see if you can find yourself a few handy tips to help you in your endeavours towards becoming a better trader.

    Have a Great Trading Career!

    Purely Technical

  •  05-11-2007, 3:09 PM 6983 in reply to 1534

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    intersting
    Rise of A Star! One Million By 2012!
  •  05-24-2007, 7:04 PM 7349 in reply to 1554

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    Purely Technical:
    Technical Analysis is the superior form of analysis across EVERY time-frame (although it is often mistaken for being an art that is only applicable to the short term)..


    OK, I'll bite....why? I won't deny some people do well with Tech trading, but why is it more superior than EVERY other investment style. I would never such a claim claim. I don't see how you can either without having some stuff ready to prove it.

    I'll make you a challenge.

    Now this only works if you don't know anything about the company. Wait I take that back. most people only think they know about it..so here it goes. Explain to me what you see in the future for First Marblehead (FMD). Short and long term. I would love to say more, but it would ruin the exercise...

    If you make a more accurate prediction than I can, I will add "Purely Technical is a technical trading god" with a link to your website to my signature here. If I'm wrong, you have to put something similar on yours with a link to a site of my choice (you can approve the link to guarantee your not putting up anything you feel wrong about - it will be a respected investor site.). Lets say the signature has to stay untouched for 2 months?

    Make me a believer.

    - Rafe

     Rafe
  •  05-24-2007, 7:05 PM 7350 in reply to 7349

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    Oh, by the way, I'm 28. I hope I can stay.

     Rafe
  •  05-24-2007, 10:19 PM 7357 in reply to 1533

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    I'm 16. New to investing. Hope to open an account at Zecco but the minimum 2,000 is a bit of a problem. Actually not really, cuz you can take it out immediately and the account will still be open wouldn't it?

    Need to convince dad to open an account.
  •  05-24-2007, 11:02 PM 7359 in reply to 7357

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    flyingmonkey:
    I'm 16. New to investing. Hope to open an account at Zecco but the minimum 2,000 is a bit of a problem. Actually not really, cuz you can take it out immediately and the account will still be open wouldn't it?

    Need to convince dad to open an account.

     

    My suggestion: try to convince your grandparents instead.  Tell them you want to plan for your retirement--you'll have that account open in under an hour!  ;)


    Slow 'n Steady!
    www.manifestinvesting.com
  •  05-25-2007, 3:05 PM 7376 in reply to 7357

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    flyingmonkey:
    I'm 16. New to investing. Hope to open an account at Zecco but the minimum 2,000 is a bit of a problem. Actually not really, cuz you can take it out immediately and the account will still be open wouldn't it?

    Need to convince dad to open an account.


    Hi flyingmonkey,

    It's awesome your starting so young. I wish I had started 10 years ago. Well to be honest, I did. I put my money on a great tip from a good friend called EToys. It went way up then burst. It was a dotCom and the year was 1998...that put me off investing for a while. Until I discovered a way to invest which wasn't a gamble.

    I highly encourage you to do a little reading first. Don't waste your time investing over the next several years by not spending a couple weeks now. Time is money, time is the only thing that generates money, and your time and money are valuable. That $2,000 could be worth $0 in 10 years, or it could be worth $10,000 in 10 years. That's with not adding a single dime after the initial investment. If you add $2k/year over the next 10 years and earn 15% interest, you will have $54,790.

    In reality, you will probably be able to add more each year, but if you go to college (best investment anyway), you might not be able to start investing a lot more until your 24, so lets say you invest $2k for the first year, $4k/yr (~$333/mo) until 24 then $10k for the last 2 years. Compounding the whole time (which is where time makes you money), you will have $91,622.94. By this time, you will have a very good idea of how best to invest, and with that kind of starting bank-roll, you'll be in a ridiculously good position to retire early if you wish (not with just $100k, but with what you'll know how to do with it...you'll have 10 years experience after all!). For example, you might want to buy a house and live in it for the equity growth and Tax breaks (which you can then re-invest in your stock portfolio and repeat) The point is you'll have tons of options.

    The big assumption here is that I used 15% returns. The market averages around 11%, including dividends, I believe, so I feel this is reasonably attainable by investing in good companies and not trading except for fundamental changes in the companies. My own goal is to return over 20%, beating the market by 10% or more. My current small cap portfolio is returning 42% and beating the market by over 22%. This is NOT going to continue forever though. Be careful what your expectations are. My goals of $30k starting, $20k/year for 20years at 20% returns will give me $5,630,640. I actually think it will be far more since I will be able to invest more and more as time progresses (and perhaps a little less just starting), and this doesn't include dividends. Even if I can only pull off 15% I'm likely to beat this figure. It is only an example. The important point here is to understand the power of compounding gains. These numbers are achievable by anyone, not just the pros day-trading, risking it all trying to predict The Market (which behaves more like a frightened child than anything else).

    The best thing you could do right now is to read a few of the masters, such as Warren Buffet or Peter Lynch. My own philosophy is somewhere in the middle of the two. Also, I highly recommend checking out www.fool.com and read the "Fool's School" section. This has some excellent advice for getting ready to invest: http://www.fool.com/school.htm. I actually disagree with some of it, because it doesn't take the power of Zecco (for example) in to account (Some of the advice was written when you had to pay $10 or more for a trade, so things like DRIPs, where you get a single share, transfer it in to your own name then invest for free, is a waste of time now, IMO), but it is a great start none-the-less.

    Good luck!



     Rafe
  •  05-25-2007, 5:35 PM 7382 in reply to 1533

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    It's actually $2,500 for the minimum deposit. I just checked.


    My grandparents are in China. They're Chinese and to my knowledge don't know squat about the stock market. It'll be much easier to just persuade my dad to fork over the money.


    Having $2,000 to invest would be terrific. Except that my dad hardly speaks english and like my grandparents, don't seem to know much about how stocks work. He’s more concerned about how soon I'd lose the monie and realize the foolishness of my youth (or so he's lead me to believe.)


    I'm leaning more towards the prospect of starting off with just $100. I really don't think he's gonna be giving me any more than that until I can prove to him that I actually do know what I'm doing by generating a good return so he'll shell out some more monie, like maybe the $2k.