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  •  08-01-2007, 5:48 PM 9524

    Welcome to the New Investors Group

    We have noticed a great new influx of new investors to the Zecco Investment Forums, so we are adding a New Investors forum group to help you all share and learn. This is designed to be a safe place where you won't be afraid to ask questions, and also hopefully a place for the more-experienced members to help out the "newbies".

    Please remember, all customer service issues related to your Zecco Trading account cannot be discussed here, and must be directed to Customer Service at customerservice@zeccotrading.com.

    Welcome!

  •  08-01-2007, 6:06 PM 9527 in reply to 9524

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    thats tight
    Rise of A Star! One Million By 2012!
  •  08-01-2007, 6:23 PM 9533 in reply to 9527

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    Thanks!

    And thank you, xinstar2006, for the many contributions you've already made to new investors in this forum.  They haven't gone unnoticed!

  •  08-06-2007, 10:46 PM 9748 in reply to 9533

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    It is my hope that others will find this new group useful. I plan to help out in anyway that I can.

    Aqua
  •  08-06-2007, 11:53 PM 9752 in reply to 9748

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    Hi, this is a very good place to start learning new stuff with questions!  im new to this trade! stocks stuff! the only thing i know is what i learned in american government class  in high school last year  !! should i just buy the stocks that are on my budge and that are growing , then sell then when they get to a higher price !

    there is any information! tips! where I can learn how to buy! and when to make a smart move!

    I try to buy but i didnt know what was the order type?  limit price? duration? stop price? Preferred ECN? AON?

    what are all this options? which should i select?

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!!

     

     

     

  •  08-07-2007, 1:51 AM 9759 in reply to 9752

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    Thanks Aqua!

    shakijloiana, definitely read some of the threads here in the New Investor forurms and the Screening and Picking Forum. 
    There are also several good books out there as well.  Although your questions are short, the answers to them can be very long. =)


  •  08-07-2007, 12:59 PM 9790 in reply to 9759

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    I really like limit orders even though you can potentially miss out on a trade. I like ETFs or mutual funds as starter investments. ETFs have very low expense ratios. I'd recommend you use the Investopeia simulator or start by buying one share of VTI and EFA (or VGK, and VPL) to get a sense of investing. You can always increase your investments each month by buying another share. I think dollar-cost averaging in the market.

    I try to answer the question but then I try to answer for a mass-audience. I think it's just as important to answer a question as it is to provide information to others. I also try to load them with examples since that's the way I learn best. I learn by patterns, reading, and hands-on.

    Aqua
  •  08-10-2007, 12:13 PM 10058 in reply to 9759

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    Thanks for creating this place...I've definately got a handful of Q'z that would get me laughed out've other forums.  But you gotta start somewhere.
    Want to increase your financial IQ by about 10 points with a simple 1/2 hour read?!? Then read THIS.
    You can thank me later.
  •  08-10-2007, 12:15 PM 10059 in reply to 10058

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    BTW:  I'm glad you got rid of the Dollar Cost Averaging section.....I just don't think it's a great idea to have newbs DCA while the market is on a downward trend.
    Want to increase your financial IQ by about 10 points with a simple 1/2 hour read?!? Then read THIS.
    You can thank me later.
  •  08-10-2007, 3:16 PM 10069 in reply to 10059

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    I prefer to DCA in a downward trend then an upward trend as I can pay less for the shares that I buy.

    Yes, thanks for  creating this group.

    Aqua
  •  08-19-2007, 9:30 PM 10717 in reply to 9752

    Re: Welcome to the New Investors Group - help please

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    I will like to push further on “shakijloiana” post. I have a similar request. Can somebody please share light on these topics? Any reply will be helpful. Thanks

  •  08-19-2007, 10:35 PM 10725 in reply to 9752

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    shakijloiana:

    Hi, this is a very good place to start learning new stuff with questions!  im new to this trade! stocks stuff! the only thing i know is what i learned in american government class  in high school last year  !! should i just buy the stocks that are on my budge and that are growing , then sell then when they get to a higher price !

    there is any information! tips! where I can learn how to buy! and when to make a smart move!

    I try to buy but i didnt know what was the order type?  limit price? duration? stop price? Preferred ECN? AON?

    what are all this options? which should i select?

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!!

     

    Shakijoiana, I trade stocks that have good fundamentals and that have a low stock price. GOOG has a low stock price at $500.04 per share. Some people buy stocks that have a good price history (trend) that has been reliable to evaluate what their next pick will be. They believe that a chart with a good trend is the way to pick stocks. I like to find stocks that are undervalued given their fundamentals. So each person has their own strategy when they invest in stocks. I think it's best to use a combination and find the strategy that works best for you. Of course, one way is to buy VTI and EFA and just keep contributing to it long-term. That would be a passive investor.


    There's no guarantee that a growth stock will go up in value. Quite the contrary, these can be the riskiest stocks (but also the most rewarding stocks) in the market. When you use a limit order, you want it to be a reasonable price. So, you might look at a chart and put it somewhere between its current price and its lowest last price, lowest last two prices, lowest last five prices, lowest of the last 10 prices, etc. For example, if the last lowest price was 8%, 6%, 4%, 10%, 12%, 3%, 8%, 12%, 9%, 7%, 14%, 16%, and 5%, and 6%, you might put in a limit order at between 5-16% below the current market price, GTC order. You might change that limit order to reflect market conditions so with the banking crisis, having a limit order of 20-25% below the market price might have still resulted in an execution. If you really want to own a stock and don't care about the price you wish to pay for that stock; in other words, you really want an execution, than I'd put a limit order between 0-5% below the market price as a Day or GTC order. The reason why I suggest as low as 5% below the market price is because trading might be volatile. So you might put in 10% at current market price, 10% at 1% below, 10% at 2% below, 10% at 3% below, 10% at 4% below, and 50% at 5% below.

    I wouldn't do AON or stops. Stops are to automatically sell the stock if it reaches a low point to take a quick loss. To help reduce the number of losers (permanent losers), pick companies with solid financials. If you pick a stock that you feel comfortable with, you won't want to sell it unless you are looking at it as a trade. That's not to say you will not lose money, but it says that it is prudent to buy a company with solid financials.

    Aqua
  •  08-20-2007, 3:29 AM 10740 in reply to 10725

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    Aqua, financials are not what causes the price of a stock to change.  It is the preception of the buyers/sellers in the market which changes the price of a stock.  If buyers are more aggressive than sellers the price will rise.  If sellers are more aggressive then the price will fall.   Stock prices are more greatly affected by the mood and sentiment of the humans trading them than what the current financial status of the company is.  This preception can change for any number of reasons whether rational or irrational.  When Google released it's last set of financials the price of the stock fell not because the financials were bad.  The financials were actually very good when compared to most companies but investors were disappointed (emotion) and this caused the stock to sell off.   There are also company's with horrible financials which will suddenly take off on a wild uptrend for no apparent reason.  It is all about human preception of a stock and anything from financials to the phrases of the moon can change that.
  •  08-20-2007, 6:27 AM 10742 in reply to 10740

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    I'm really happy that people are able to ask questions and get helped by more experienced investors here.

    It feels a little cluttered here - I would encourage people to start new threads in this forum with your questions.

    Remember, a descriptive subject helps keep the forum organized and attracts more help!

  •  08-20-2007, 8:42 AM 10743 in reply to 10740

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    Oh absolutely. The price of a stock is determined by supply and demand. And prices revolve around future earnings (what is expected) not current earnings. Great point. I do think financials need to be a consideration to predicting the current safety of a stock. I always like looking at the balance sheet of a promising company and if it's solid and its cash flow from operating activities is solid than I feel good owning that company.

    I really feel that value investors and momentum players are different animals altogether. People who trade momentum try to find price and volume movements while value players try to obtain a discount from "the fair market value." In order to successfully trade the fair market value, you either need a company with rock solid financials or one that you expect to have rock solid financials within a reasonable period of time.

    Aqua
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