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  •  04-08-2008, 2:07 PM 26624 in reply to 26597

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    thanks for the info.  i;ve decided to hold on for a while.  is there any reason V can't match or exceed MA?

    I know about the lawsuit, and that funds are set aside for settlement.  i'm  looking at V to reach 200  -  anyone with me?????

  •  04-08-2008, 9:14 PM 26651 in reply to 26624

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    The last analysis I read stated it's fair value was around $78.  If there is a lot of interest it can push past that.  I also read in the same article to consider selling in the $90's.
  •  04-08-2008, 9:37 PM 26654 in reply to 26651

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    when is the 30 day wait period for V expire? after which V sharescan be sold?
  •  04-09-2008, 10:21 AM 26681 in reply to 26654

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    It opened on 3/19/2008.  So I assume Monday, 4/19 or Tuesday, 4/20.  But that's only if you were granted IPO shares by the investment houses that offered it.  The rest of us can obviously buy and sell at any time, like Angst pointed out.

    Regarding your question on valuation, Sunshine, see Hexdek16 's simple analysis above.  The IPO opening price was fairly priced compared to Mastercard at 230, i.e. V at $38 with 775M shares outstanding is the same price as Mastercard with 6 times less shares at 230.  So to randomly say that Visa goes into the 200 dollar territory because Mastercard did makes no sense.  Not to say that it won't go higher for some other momentum reason.  Like when China buys it up, etc.

    Realistically though it should only go higher from here if it's outlook is better than Mastercard, and that analysis hasn't been made yet from what I've seen (although I didn't see the accounts you read).  I sold yesterday above 67 and will see what happens by my settlement day.  Whon knows, I might pull the trigger and get back in.  But I got my designs on RIMM, FWLT and DE (might dump MON at 122 or 123 to buy DE?).

  •  04-18-2008, 10:27 AM 27356 in reply to 26597

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    Well Angst,

    Visa's up again today past where I sold it at 67.  Wonder if Monday will be the 30 day mark where everybody dumps it.  Myth?  Who knows?  But I would think every one would have gotten out of it by today if the IPO'ers could or were planning on dumping it.  Maybe the IPO buyers don't plan to sell it and everybody knows it.  This is very strange....will just have to wait and see on Monday..  God, hope it doesn't take off.  Oh well, I'm ahead on it.  Could be worse.

    D

  •  04-23-2008, 2:21 PM 27678 in reply to 27356

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    When it crossed 70 on monday I officially felt like I had missed the boat.     Big D, did you sell on Friday (Apr 18)?  The drop on the chart at 1pm last Friday looks like a real gut wrencher.   I know i would have bailed If I had been long and I was sitting watching the chart through the day. 

    It looks really all over the place right now.  I cant get a read on what its doing. 

    What was/is the official end of the30 days? Would it have been yesterday (Tuesday Apr 22nd) It is going to be real interesting to see what happens now.  Im getting the impression that many of these companys that  have been reporting positive earnings recently is due to the companys themselves being long Visa stock. 

    Can somebody expand on what is involved in the  "quiet period"  I understand that there is a "quiet period" for the first 30 days and that there are many restrictions like analists are prohibited from giving an opinion and a few other things.  What are some of the other things that restricted during the quiet period?

    On edit 4/24:  I heard that the 28th is the end of the quiet period. 

  •  05-24-2008, 11:29 AM 29737 in reply to 27678

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    I sold on Aprl. 8 at 67.  For whatever reason, the IPO holders aren't selling.  Someone on Fast Money said it was 90 days instead of 60.  But it looks like it's dropping now with the rest of the market. it's hard to get back in here at 77, although this could be the current low and will rise from here.
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