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  •  10-08-2006, 12:14 AM 723

    RIMM, IBM, AAPL, MOT, DELL

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    Does anyone watch techs? Even though most days it seems they are DOWN majors like RIMM, IBM, AAPL, MOT have moved up over several months. The strength of their products show the reason.

    RIMM: blackberry and more recently the sleek PEARL handheld device brought analysts, those brought buyers and next thing you know, high earnings cause hype, gap-ups and a plus hundred-dollar stock.

    IBM: selling the laptop division to lenovo allowed a focus on services. looks like it's headed to $85.

    AAPL: adding anyone from GOOG to your board can't hurt, stellar products, gains in consumer marketshare, plans for a REAL apple cell phone,successful chip transition. a few worries this past week but big LEOPARD osx release soon.

    MOT: slow, but steady uptrend (3 month ascending triangle), RAZR peaked, but great new gadgets upcoming.

    I recently sold MOT but the point is quality tech stocks depend on good products, cycles and successfully meeting challenges. If DELL can overcome recent problems and move to $24 it has those GOOD products and may run higher.

    Good Luck!
    Peterw 

  •  10-08-2006, 4:54 AM 727 in reply to 723

    Re: RIMM, IBM, AAPL, MOT, DELL

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    RIMM?  $110 a share with a P/E north of 50 still carrying over $7million in debt.  This stock seems overvalued.  Somewhere between $70-$85 seems more appropriate.   Growing competition is going to slowly chip away at their market share.

    IBM - I think they are nearing their peak.  I hate to buy companies with $21 Billion in debt.

    AAPL - Anytime I see this: "AAPL is delinquent in its regulatory filings", I stay away.  If a company is delinquent with their filings, what else are they doing wrong?  I like them at around $55, but not at $75.

    MOT - Currently trading at a 52wk high, may still go up, but $22 seems like a fair price for them.  They are also in the middle of some suits for Symbol Tech.

  •  10-09-2006, 10:45 AM 796 in reply to 723

    Re: RIMM, IBM, AAPL, MOT, DELL

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    Techs are out of favor for now. America is getting old and we need biotechs and the such. just my 2 cents....}

  •  10-30-2006, 9:28 PM 1713 in reply to 727

    Re: RIMM, IBM, AAPL, MOT, DELL

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    Looks like SELECT tech stocks are doing well. Watch AAPL (in my opinion) go to $100.

    Peterw

  •  10-31-2006, 9:02 AM 1731 in reply to 1713

    Re: RIMM, IBM, AAPL, MOT, DELL

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    If, and I do mean if, Apple were to hit 100 it would be late December or in January when they report on christmas profit, that is 2 months and 20 dollars from now (unlikely).  You would be better off just buying call options for 90 or 95 dollars, if you think it will go that high.  The highest I would go is 90, but the 100 dollar calls are substantially cheaper than the 90s for January 07 (ie you pay more upfront because it is more likely that the stock will hit 90 than 100).  Go to the CBOE (Chicago Board of Options Exchange) website or 888options (Options Industry Council) and compare the prices for December and January Calls and Puts at 90, 95, 100, etc.  This will tell you what the market is thinking.  If the commission for the puts is higher than for the calls on a Jan 07 $100 Call, then the market does not favor a $100 run by January.   Right now December 100 puts are $19 and calls are $0.3, meaning absolutely no one thinks AAPL will hit 100 by December.  January is Call 19.5 and Put 0.5 (which is basically just time added value.  What this means is that there is basically no chance the apple will hit one hundred by December or January unless everyone on wall street is wrong.  But, spend your money however you want.  If you want dividends then apple might be for you, but there are better dividend stocks out there.  If you were a gambler though, the 100 Calls in January for $0.5 might be a good bargain, and since no one else is doing it , if the company hits 100, you make a very nice profit, but this would be really rare and I don't like 20 to 1 odds myself.

    Using the Options volume and pricing as a gauge of the markets opinion about an underlying equity is not fool proof, but when you see that 10 times as many people are betting on the stock to rise (Call) vs. the stock to fall (Put) below a certain price (strike price) it is a pretty good indicator.  Sometimes though the $0.10 call can pay off even when the put is $2.50.  The options board is a good estimate for equity traders.  

    (quotes are time sensitive so when you read this the quotes for Call/Put on AAPL may be different, point is still valid, right now Jan Call 100s are at .90 with Puts still at about 20, just depends on how often CBOE or the OIC update their quotes)  Remeber that option contracts are representing 100 shares so multiply .9 at 100 equals 90 dollars and 20 times 100 equals $2000.  Good luck.

     

  •  11-07-2007, 5:20 PM 17651 in reply to 1731

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    Note that this thread is from over a year ago in 2006.  It's interesting to compare thoughts from back then to what we see now.

    Today, RIMM is at about $133 per share with a P/E of 87!
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