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  •  05-25-2008, 7:53 PM 29780

    Is Citi a turn around Story?

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    I am feeling C is a buy at $21 per share.  I have a feeling in a year or so it will be around $50 per Share.

    Any one else feel the same?

  •  05-25-2008, 9:20 PM 29784 in reply to 29780

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    Until housing hits a bottom, you will want to turn around and run away from any of the financial stocks.  You don't want to catch a falling knife no matter how slow it is falling or how easy of a catch it looks to be.  All of the financials face a high downside risk as the housing crisis deepens.  So far, the housing crisis doesn't appear to be showing any improvement and is actually still accelerating to the downside.  This spells nothing but trouble for the financials.

    Take a look at your portfolio.  Your position in C is showing a 5% loss.  Doesn't that tell you that your analysis of C at the time you purchased your position was wrong?
  •  05-25-2008, 10:55 PM 29788 in reply to 29784

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    I bought C!

    When everyone else is running away, jump in. When everyone is trying to get a piece of the cake sell your piece for high profit!

    Buy low, sell high. I like the future of C. Sure it could drop, if it does maybe I'll pick up more shares. I am a buy and hold investing type of guy. In the long run 21 a share for C is great!
  •  05-25-2008, 11:43 PM 29791 in reply to 29788

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    I think the idea of buying Citi is a good idea in theory, but I have to agree with jackg in that the housing market has not fully bottomed and will not bottom for many months.  Some analysts say it may not even do so until next summer.  Some markets  still have plenty of people who are trying to sell their properties that they overpaid for at pre-bubble bursting prices.  Until these morons wise up and lower their asking prices to a reasonable level, they will simply sit on their properties until they are fed up or foreclosed upon.  This will also make potential buyers all the more hesitant.  You can tell just by looking through some asking prices for people in DC and Chicago and LA, that there are still plenty of morons out there asking way to much and frightening off buyers.  Until housing turns around, any bank play is iffy at best.

    Personally, I think the turn around for Citi and most financials in general will take longer than the one year you predicted.  It may take two years or more.  But I agree with you in thinking that Citi will easily get back to $50 a share in due course.  It just might take a little more time.  If you have the patience to wait it out that long, I am sure you have to patience to wring a couple more bucks out of the buy price, maybe even to the $18-$19 dollar range.  And then just sit on that 6% dividend and pray that ole Vikram Pandit doesn't cut it on you.

  •  05-26-2008, 1:40 AM 29795 in reply to 29780

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    beezerlm:

    I am feeling C is a buy at $21 per share.  I have a feeling in a year or so it will be around $50 per Share.

    Any one else feel the same?



    I think you are dreaming too much.  It's impossible for C to be around $50 within a year.  Right now, I'm betting that it may get above $26 per share within a year.  Since I'm currently holding a large call position on C, naturally I hope and dream that it will go higher soon.  Good luck!
  •  05-26-2008, 3:16 PM 29806 in reply to 29795

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    I do feel like it could dip a bit more, but in that case I will just buy more to get lower average price. I know I can't predict the value of the stock in one year, but I feel it we are near bottom and citi has been beat up for quite a long while now. Its just a matter of time before the housing market corrects itself. I am already seeing more realistic housing prices where I live.
  •  05-26-2008, 3:21 PM 29807 in reply to 29806

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    I've got some January 09 call options for C.  Low risk, high potential upside.  If we're not at a bottom in the housing and credit crunch, we're close.  Buy Buy Buy!
  •  06-18-2008, 1:25 AM 31770 in reply to 29807

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    If I have sold my option holding on C this morning, I would be breaking even....After month of holding, I finally breaking even...and may even have a chance to make some money.   Now, I'm down 30% on C again.  The financial market is too crazy these days.
  •  06-20-2008, 10:53 PM 32069 in reply to 29806

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    beezerlm:
    Its just a matter of time before the housing market corrects itself. I am already seeing more realistic housing prices where I live.

    Where I live (Nor Cal) housing prices are still sky high at $1000 a square foot and up!

  •  06-20-2008, 11:24 PM 32070 in reply to 32069

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    Citi is under $20. Buy it! Just don't expect to see big profits in 3 months or 6 months. You have two options here -

    1. buy it at 19.50, sell it on a rally at $21 and make some money.

    2. buy it at $19.50 and sell it in two or three years for a significant profit.

    Your only mistake would be buying it now and hoping it will double by the end of 2008. It's a good investment, but not a miracle worker.

  •  07-02-2008, 3:36 PM 32865 in reply to 32070

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    I bought C at $32.00 and it is still falling. I would stay away from the finacial companies until the dust is clear. Too many writedowns. I may have to hold mine for a looong time.
  •  07-15-2008, 12:44 AM 33530 in reply to 29780

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    beezerlm:

    I am feeling C is a buy at $21 per share.  I have a feeling in a year or so it will be around $50 per Share.

    Any one else feel the same?



    A message from C........"How do you like me now??"

    I tried to warn you. 
  •  07-15-2008, 6:12 AM 33542 in reply to 33530

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    Hello jackg1606

    That's  cold  maybe you should gloat in silence..

  •  07-15-2008, 6:21 AM 33544 in reply to 29780

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    Unfortunately, I agree with Jackg. I currently own some STT and MA. I do think that WFC is better than C, but that you may still be a little early.

    However, I do believe that if you got in now, you would get one heck of a bargain. Good luck.

    Aqua
  •  07-15-2008, 6:51 AM 33549 in reply to 33544

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    I just don't see it being a bargain. Any of the financials. About the only thing that's been working with financials is shorting them, or buying proshare's inverse ETF's. Right when you think a company's "hit bottom", they pull out a whole new line of losses. And however we feel now, I keep reading that we're only 1/3 of the way through mortgage resets. Once we're through all the resets, then maybe it'll be time to look at the sector seriously, but they'll first have to show they have a revenue structure in place, because obviously they're not going to be bundling and selling morgages anymore.

    I admit i made a bit on FRE and FNM, I got out the same day... But that was just an opportunistic move. And i did just pick up NCC at 3.42 yesterday, but only a very small amount so that if it craters I won't kick myself.
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